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I've been wondering if the "Ordeal by Innocence" idea evolved from "Trial by Ordeal" procedure back in the Middle Ages..
I love the Title Ordeal By Innocense one of the proposed was Cat Among The Pigeons which would have worked Just as well.
I personally liked 'The Clocks' and haven't read 'Murder On The Links' or 'Three Act Tragedy' yet but I agree with you about the others Frnorfoe but like you I might read them again especially 'The Mystery of The Blue Train', 'Halloween Party' and 'Elephants Can Remember', three books I can't really remember but knew I didn't like them much, I am on the Last Chapter of a Book I will never read again and I ended last year on a book I will never ever read again (Although I was out of my comfort zone as it was a Science fiction book I was reading as IO read very few people finish it so mI wanted to see if I could) and my Sister gave me a Murder |Mystery I will never read again, I am thinking of never reading other books written by Authors whose books I have put on the list but I like Betty Rowlands Books and one of them I really couldn't get on with.
There are books by other authors which are on my "never re-read again" list but not many Agatha Christie books are on it. I've read all of Miss Marple's novels and short stories and none are on my list either. As for Poirot I think The Murder on the Links, The Mystery of the Blue Train, Three Act Tragedy, The Clocks, Hallowe'en Party and Elephants Can Remember come pretty close to being on the list. But then again someday I might read them again to remind myself why I disliked them so much in the first place!
That's the same for me, There are some books I really hated and wont read again, but at the Moment no Miss Marple's are on the List just about 4 Poirot's Definitely; 'Lord Edgware Dies, 'The Murder of Roger Ackroyed', 'The Big Four', Third Girl and maybe 'The Blue Train Mystery' all though I can't remember too much about it as I reads it such a long time ago. Some Non-series Books are also on the List; Endless Night, Passenger To Frankfurt and Death Comes On The End. I haven't read all the Books in any Catagory yet so only time will tell
I could read Nemesis again. too. in the future. I have a habit of re-reading books. Books I've loved, books I've liked, it doesn’t matter. I don't really like Nemesis and yet I've read it at least two-three times. The "never re-read again" sign is only reserved for books which I've really hated.
I agree with you Frndorfoe, but for me it isn't rmances it is Books where the Main Character is going on a Journey like Mark Wallington's The Missing Postman or if not a book with a journey a P.G. Wodehouse Book, I too have to care about the Characters to care wether they succeed in doing what they achieve, I did love the book and is one I will read again.
When I read a book I like to feel connected to the characters. I like becoming a part of the flow of the story. If I do not, I cannot enjoy the narration or the conclusion of the story. It does not matter if it is a murder mystery where injustices must be put right or if it is a romance where two lovers must unite (Hey that even rhymes!). Nemesis is one such a story for me. That's why I like it but do not love it.
You can dislike a person and still want injustices to be put right or else many Lawyers wouldn't be employed but I agree if you don't like some of the Characters of a book you can't like the book which is why I don't like Sparkling Cyanide, Endless Night and Death Comes At The End.
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I suppose Michael and Verity are a side story, a story about a girl who rebels against an stifleing and Claustrophobic atmosphere who sees a man no relative would want as a relation who falls for a girl who thinks she can use him to escape and perhaps change him in the process. What loopholes the type of people the Characters were they would ramble so I didn't see anything wrong with them rambling, the characters were like the ones in 'Postern of Fate' which was also one of the very later books What did you mean by loopholes go_leafs?
Nemesis was... interesting. Omit the loopholes and its (at times) rambling nature, and it's one of the more interesting Christies.
Don't get me wrong. I love and adore Miss Marple and she is my favorite detective. Nemesis is just one of those stories Agatha Christie wrote during her final years. It tends to be a bit rambling. Also, the characters are not properly fleshed out. I just could not connect with Michael and Verity like one ought to with lovers. I felt dissatisfied and it left me feeling a bit cold. But that doesn't mean I hate it. It is just one of my less favorite Miss Marple stories.
winne, "Cat Among the Pigeons" implies that one of the people among the pupils and schoolteachers is dangerous.
What didn't you like about it Frndorfoe? I loved the book
I know what Nemesis means and I know that the title fits the story. It is very obvious. What I meant to say was that even though I liked the title I did not like the book. I was intrigued by the title but the story let me down.
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There are several titles that I found intriguing. But the stories turned out to be nothing extraordinary. Elephants Can Remember being one of them. Nemesis is another one of them. There are some books which did live up to their names for me. Sleeping Murder, A Murder is Announced, A Pocket Full of Rye, Cards on the Table, Evil under the Sun, Cat among the Pigeons .etc. are some of them.
Ten people, each with something to hide and something to fear, are invited to a lonely mansion on Soldier Island by a host who, surprisingly, fails to appear.
When the wealthy patriarch, Aristide, is murdered, suspicion falls on the whole household. ...
Travelling on the Orient Express, Poirot is approached by a desperate American. Afraid that someone plans to kill him, Ratchett asks Poirot for help ...
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I recently re-read major pallgrave's thread discussing 'Why Didn't They Ask Evans?' and was reminded of the point that had arisen about the importance of good, capturing titles which say something about the work. I was wondering what other people's views were on this.
'Why Didn't They Ask Evans?' has to be one fo my favourite titles (though I found the book itself rather unexciting) because it, for me, completely captures the sense of mystery of the novel and the context in which it is said, for those who have read the book, is extremely grim and intriguing.
I also like 'The Moving Finger' (a quote from a poem I believe) as I found the multiple ways it applies to the book (different villagers pointing the finger of accusation at each other, the single finger used to type the letters, the symbolic 'moving finger' of the poison-pen writer etc.) rather clever.
What are your favourite titles? (please try and give reasons, if possible!)
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