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In case anyone is interested the quote from the poem (the Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam) goes as follows:
The Moving Finger writes; and, having writ,
Moves on: nor all thy piety nor wit
Shall lure it back to cancel half a line,
Nor all thy tears wash out a word of it.
It's interesting that a lot of the Miss Marple titles have a literary or double meaning. 'The Mirror Crack'd' is an obvious Tennison reference, and has an interesting significance in the novel. Similarly 'A Pocketful of Rye' has the creepy nursery-rhyme theme and 'Sleeping Murder' refers to the Old English proverb 'let sleeping murder lie' - an interesting moral question in the book (would it have been better to let the past stay hidden).
I always think the best books AC wrote are the ones which have several interlocking themes/questions which tie up at the end into a powerful knot - as opposed to the 'straight' detective novels.
Hobbit
I think a title has to be arresting enough to make us take it from the bookshelf and buy it. However, once I've started reading the book, I tend to forget the title.
I do get a bit irritated by those nursery rhyme titles and the contrived way that AC sometimes tries to force them into the plot. I love Five Little Pigs but trying to link the five suspects with the five pigs from the rhyme is embarrassingly done
Squatty I agree with you, It is a long time since I have read 'One Two Buckle My Show' but I thought the way AC put the rhyme in the book was contrived, It is the blurb on the back that incourages me to buy a book, It might be the Title that makes me take it of the shelf but if I don't like the blurb on the back I but the book back on the shelf.
Interesting question. I hadn't thought, by I suppose the Marple novels do all have quite thematic titles. I'd be interested to know what 'They Do it With Mirrors' refers to (I haven't read the book myself).
To add some different ideas to the mix...
Murder Is Easy - sort of has moral resonance, I think. A perfect title for the book that follows.
Sparkling Cyanide - it's alliterative and sounds vey nice. Very creepy title for what I thought was quite a creepy book.
By the Pricking of My Thumbs - love Macbeth so it's an obvious choice for me. Hobbit, you mentioned on a previous thread (discussing the novel) that you didn't see the relevance of the title to the book. I sort of agree with you. There is, like you said, a connection between the demise of the murderer and that of Lady Macbeth, but it's only a slight similarity.
All great titles from Agatha though.
Anyone else thnik that 'Ordeal by Innocence' is a really grate title as well?
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Winnebago, I do see the relevance of the title.
The folly was built by a man who had been presumed dead. I actually think the title is one of the biggest clues of this book
my fav titles are sad cypress, pocket full of rye and the moving finger
Thankyou for reminding me squatty, I had forgotten all abiout that, I loved the book but loved the way in the Ustinov Adaptation Hastings appears with Ariadne Oliver after all she meets Battle and Race in the books so she mightn't as well have met him.
My favourite titles are 'Five Little Pigs', "Sad Cypress', and 'why didnt they ask evans?'. Agatha uses nursery rhymes really well in her novels, and I love it.
my fav title is sad cypress.
My fave titles are Five Little Pigs and And Then Then There Were None.
I like the titles which come from a nursery rhyme or literary quote. For example Five Little Pigs, Endless Night or The Mirror Crack'd from Side to Side. Well they are a lot but I like the ones that are taken from a nursery rhyme or literary quote as I already said.
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Personally, I am fond of titles that quote or make references to other work. "The Moving Finger", a reference to the Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam, is one of my favourites, not only because of the reference, but because of its relevance to the story, as the poison-pen letter writer shifts the finger of accusation from one person to another.
Another one of my favourites is "By the Pricking of My Thumbs". Macbeth happens to be my second-favourite Shakespeare play (right after Othello), and seeing that quote from Act IV immediately gave me an idea of the kind of atmosphere to expect from the book. I was not disappointed.
One more title I love is "Hallowe'en Party". It just sounds so childish-- what on Earth would Poirot have in common with something like this? And yet, as children have fun and play games, someone meets their death. It's intriguing.
Titles that have incomplete information often intrigue me. "The Clocks" is a good example, and so is "The Pale Horse". "What clocks? What about them? Why are they important? Why is the horse pale, and why is it important?" Those questions came into mind when seeing the titles by themselves.
Some titles, however, I'm not too fond of. Most of these are American retitlings of the British version ("The Patriotic Murders" is a particularly bad one, I find). However, of the ones AC came up with herself, "Death Comes as the End" must be one of my least favourites. "Of course it does!" I muttered to myself when reading the title, which may be the reason I put off reading it.
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Ten people, each with something to hide and something to fear, are invited to a lonely mansion on Soldier Island by a host who, surprisingly, fails to appear.
When the wealthy patriarch, Aristide, is murdered, suspicion falls on the whole household. ...
Travelling on the Orient Express, Poirot is approached by a desperate American. Afraid that someone plans to kill him, Ratchett asks Poirot for help ...
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I recently re-read major pallgrave's thread discussing 'Why Didn't They Ask Evans?' and was reminded of the point that had arisen about the importance of good, capturing titles which say something about the work. I was wondering what other people's views were on this.
'Why Didn't They Ask Evans?' has to be one fo my favourite titles (though I found the book itself rather unexciting) because it, for me, completely captures the sense of mystery of the novel and the context in which it is said, for those who have read the book, is extremely grim and intriguing.
I also like 'The Moving Finger' (a quote from a poem I believe) as I found the multiple ways it applies to the book (different villagers pointing the finger of accusation at each other, the single finger used to type the letters, the symbolic 'moving finger' of the poison-pen writer etc.) rather clever.
What are your favourite titles? (please try and give reasons, if possible!)
Hobbit