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Murder Hunt- poison help?

HeiseiHolmes 18 Feb 10 at 3:46 p.m. GMT

I'm making a Murder Hunt (inspired by Dead Man's Folly!) for some kids who I go on holiday with. Last year I just had a treasure hunt with enigmatic clues to solve (in fact, there were some really fiendish ones! For example, "Fa La Ti Mi Mi" to mean "Table" , they found the next clue on the table.) This time, I'm putting a Christie-type spin on things! So I need the name of a good poison that can make people go mad and kill someone. I'd also appreciate any cool puzzles like the one above! It's not until June, but I'm going to plan it ahead so it goes over well.

I'll let you know how it turns out!

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MissQuin 18 Feb 10 at 4:09 p.m. GMT

For a minute there I thought you were planning a real murder by poison!!! Only joking...

I cant answer your question but have fun anyway.

HeiseiHolmes 18 Feb 10 at 4:11 p.m. GMT

Looking at it now, I can see my title could have been misinterpreted... Still, maybe it'll attract more people and answers like that!  It should be good fun, and thanks for your post :)

MissQuin 18 Feb 10 at 4:18 p.m. GMT

Ok, had a think... theres a classic book, I wont name it in case it spoils the solution for people! Anyway, a charcater was unknowingly given opium. The person who gave it them intended to induce them to commit a crime whilst under the influence of the drug. I think they were told over and over again what they must do and they did it...

How believable it it I don't know, but the author must have known enough about the drug as they took it themselves!!

TheButlerDidIT 18 Feb 10 at 4:57 p.m. GMT

Instead of a drug what about someone was supposdly hypnotised into commiting murder. The hynptist gets the person he has hynotised to kill his lover by making the hypnotised person  think it is his mum who left him when he was a baby. The lover is sleeping on her bed and is shot. The hypnotist orders the hypnotised person to kill four more people. The police by now think it is the hypnotist who killed his lover. The police arrest the hypnotist for the murder of his lover but thinks the hypnotised person will commit four more murders. So the hypnotist plans to fool the police by making them  think it wasn't him because he will be behind bars at the time of the next four murders. The hypnotised person was not hypnotised at all because it is impossible to hypnotise someone to commit murder and is really his son after the hypnotist raped a schoolgirl and hypnotised her into beliving it wasn't him that raped her. He wants revenge on his dad. The son doesn't commit the next murders to make the police think it was the hypnotist.

What do you think?

HeiseiHolmes 18 Feb 10 at 5:59 p.m. GMT

That sounds really interesting! The only problem is that rape seems a little dodgy to bring into it since the youngest person playing as a girl aged ten and the oldest will be... fifteen, I think. But you should definitely take that plot further, I bet it could make a great book♥

MissQuin, I think opium seems quite do-able. I looked it up on Wikipedia, and it seems easy to make- apparently you just slash part of the flower and collect the liquid produced.

Any other suggestions are also welcome!

MissQuin 18 Feb 10 at 7:29 p.m. GMT

It is rather dodgy and wise thinking Conan. I think keeping it in the light hearted Christie style is more fun, than bringing disturbing subjects into it.

HeiseiHolmes 18 Feb 10 at 7:37 p.m. GMT

Right now, I'm typing up a draft of the backstory and rules. And here's a riddle that will lead to a household object I spent all day at school thinking up! "On the night of the murder, the king became rich. The queen fell in love and the knight killed himself with his own weapon." See if you can tell what this is leading to... (It is , however, unrelated to the actual murder.)

TheButlerDidIT 18 Feb 10 at 9:17 p.m. GMT

Tell me! I want to know!

I am sorry about the plot idea it sounds far to dark to be a Christie.

I need to get out more as I watch far too much tv !

I am actually in the rather dreary process of writing my own novel. Although it is a crime book it will be modern and I am toying whether to set it in the country (too much like Midsomer Murders though) or maybe Brighton. That would be difficult because I live in Scotland! Any suggestions? I thought of having my detective or detectives' sidekick as being Irish because of the racisim towards them. Any advice?

HeiseiHolmes 19 Feb 10 at 3:38 p.m. GMT

I'e never been to Brighton, but I have heard good things~♪I live in Scotland too, by the way.

The answer to my riddle? Playing Cards. A rich king is the King of Diamonds, the queen who falls in love is the Queen of Hearts, and the suicide knight is the Jack of Clubs. It's so clever of me, if I do say so myself...

TheButlerDidIT 20 Feb 10 at 12:56 p.m. GMT

It is clever!

What about basing a clue on a nursery ryhme like Agatha Christie has done on a number of occasions?

HeiseiHolmes 20 Feb 10 at 10:10 p.m. GMT

Oh, I like that. "Sing a Song of Sixpence" could lead to the clothes line, from the part when the maid is hanging out the clothes. I'm going to have to think about prizes to give out, too, and persuade my friend into playing a corpse. All very hard work!

TheButlerDidIT 21 Feb 10 at 11:18 a.m. GMT

That happened in A Pocketful of Rye

TheButlerDidIT 21 Feb 10 at 2:28 p.m. GMT

Just had a eureka moment! Can you solve this?

"Oh when I know to free hate, to sever no one."

You'll never guess so so simple!

HeiseiHolmes 22 Feb 10 at 4:25 p.m. GMT

It's either an anagram or something to do with the sounds of the words. Don't tell me yet, I'm going to deduce this one out.

TheButlerDidIT 23 Feb 10 at 5:03 p.m. GMT

Good luck deducing this one! Anybody else figured it out yet?

This puzzle or another of the type would be great for your Murder Mystery Hunt Conan!

HeiseiHolmes 24 Feb 10 at 3:35 p.m. GMT

Ah... very clever. I like it! After some time trying anagrams, I decided to try sounds of the words. During a Cockney accent attempt at saying it, it clicked in my head. The solution... is a number. 01902382701, I think, unless I have sounded it out wrong. It could be combined with a great code- If you get a phone keypad and type 1232580*0# then this makes the shape of the letter I. You can write words like this:

147*456369#/1234789*0#/147*0#/147*0#/12369#0*741

Looking back, I feel pretty smart~

TheButlerDidIT 25 Feb 10 at 12:18 p.m. GMT

Well done Conan! You could use this for your murder mystery hunt!

It's written phonetically. I'm pleased you solved it. You must be the ideal person to be organising the hunt.

HeiseiHolmes 26 Feb 10 at 3:46 p.m. GMT

Well, I love puzzles and this kind of thing, so I spent a looooong time at it. I could re-use some things I used last year, but change the codes so they are still challenging. I think that's a great idea to use, and I am thinking up the clues now...

HeiseiHolmes 01 Mar 10 at 5:02 p.m. GMT

It's almost finished! Already! Now I just need a good murder method. Nothing too violent, but it must be physical. Any ideas for this?

MissQuin 01 Mar 10 at 5:04 p.m. GMT

detective_conan

 Now I just need a good murder method. Nothing too violent, but it must be physical. Any ideas for this?

I'm trying to come up with something to help you..