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The Mystery Figure lurking at the top of the agathachristie.com homepage has finally made their move and murdered a member of the community. Police are powerless to stop the killer from striking again, until somebody can identify them.

Stay tuned to agathachristie.com over the coming weeks and see if your little grey cells can make sense of proceedings. In the meantime discuss who you think it is with other members of the community below - though get too close to the truth and you might wind up MURDERED!   

First clue finders only

Moderator2 12 May 10 at 1:59 p.m. GMT

This is the place to discuss the first clue, only read on if you've found it, or you have given up trying to find it! If you're new to the game and want to try finding the first clue, join the debate in The hunt is on.

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MissSherlock22 30 Aug 10 at 1:36 p.m. GMT

Is Clue 1 the picture of a man or was that part of clue 6? (When I say a picture of a man I mean the man that you see on Toilet doors in restaurants)

MissSherlock22 29 Aug 10 at 11:23 a.m. GMT

HeiseiHolmes

33rd book? Maybe? Ahahah, I'm just making stuff up. That message you saw, was that the second clue?

Hey....The murderer maybe from the 33rd book? You think that's weird but actually, it's a pretty good idea. Which is the 33rd book though......From The Moving Finger?  Huh? That would make it someone like: Mr . Symmington? Though I still like my The ABC Murders theory. 

MissSherlock22 29 Aug 10 at 11:15 a.m. GMT

Heisei!!!! What, so it's a cat, is it? But that doesn't make sense? How does a cat kill someone. Maybe it could dig it's claws into your chest, but can a cat have that sort of mind, able to have angry feelings for a human? Your point, Heisei (Even though I know your dead, this is directed at you), about Angelika Blue Trusting a cat is good, but it makes no sense to me. It's probably a human with a cat? The man with the inky cat....Inky, because there was a paw print on Heisei's head. So, Franklin Cust and the inky cat? Hastings and the inky cat? Hell, Poirot and the Inky cat? I know that will never happen, but the other two are possible. 

MissSherlock22 29 Aug 10 at 10:49 a.m. GMT

I've actually got a clear idea of who it is, now. Now, I shall say no more unless you want me to. My source of the idea is from The Alphebetical Order - ABC. Search it up, Agatha Christie - ABC. 

Karu_Kaze 21 Jul 10 at 8:44 p.m. GMT

I know who.

atu_gelovanii 26 May 10 at 7:13 p.m. GMT

ten must mean the book "and then there were none " maybe i am right? can someone explain me exactly the tules

atu_gelovanii 26 May 10 at 4:41 p.m. GMT

I think there is something wrong i have some doubts but there is somehting wrong with the person " ilovewalruses2" it could may be the murderer. ho also i found one more clue and i want to discuss it someone whom i can trust . !

Dr_Damo 24 May 10 at 3:09 a.m. GMT

agatha_911 was murdered before  she could DIAL for help. What telephone number do yo dial for help, uh?

NoOole 17 May 10 at 9:19 a.m. GMT

If any goes to check the time line notice that it starts with 1890 and there are three events happened,  and 1901 there are two   events maybe that what 91 means in beatriz name

The 9 is from 1890 and the 1 is from 1901

It could mean some thing         

Agathasmykid 17 May 10 at 5:55 a.m. GMT

Well folks, I had a fun time coming up with theories however the weekend is over. I am starting to think that there is no second clue yet.  Hopefully we get some clarification soon.

Take care everyone.

ilovewalruses2 17 May 10 at 4:58 a.m. GMT

He must be hiding! ahh! :((((

Shino_Ellery 17 May 10 at 4:55 a.m. GMT

Moderator where art thou? We need you!!!  I tried movies and games too but in vain...

ilovewalruses2 17 May 10 at 4:52 a.m. GMT

I looked through all of the deck chairs and bags just in case- still nothing. I don't think the clue would be in the books again but I'm running out of ideas.

Genna 16 May 10 at 10:50 p.m. GMT

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Beryl Gillant has turned up but, this time completes a murder.  She may have done them all or there is more than one murderer.

Thracias 16 May 10 at 10:25 p.m. GMT

If it only appeared during 9 past 1 that would sort of be impossible to find, because you'd have to be there at that specific time which might be inconvenient for people and people might have thier clocks a minute or two off which would eliminate thier chances of finding it, plus of the different time zones. But maybe you're right on moderator2 spying on us from a different account. Hmmmm.......Maybe you are? Jk, lol.

jenpix 16 May 10 at 9:13 p.m. GMT

Maybe Moderator 2 has been murdered? Or maybe Moderator 2 has assume a new identity and is watching us from afar . . .

I have checked all the dates on the agatha christie timeline and there is nothing there. Maybe the 1 and 9 refer to a time, maybe you can only find the 2nd clue at 10 past 9 or 9 past 1?

tudes 16 May 10 at 9:01 p.m. GMT

Agathasmykid

tudes

1919 was the year thar her daughter, Rosalind, was born.

Tudes, this was a great thought on your part, thanks for sharing.  I took your idea and added some more theories to the ones I already stated;

Theory;  1'91'9 refers to Agatha's daughter Rosalind

Possible connections; 

-Check the Agatha Christie timeline on this website and read the description that comes with Rosalind's birth, I didn't find anything that seems to be a clue

-When I think about Rosalind, I thought about 'Curtain,' I do believe that is the book she wrote specifically for her daughter.  However looking up Curtain I couldn't find anything that looked like a clue.

Not sure what else relates to Rosalind on this website, however if anyone thinks of anything please let us know.

I have already checked, just like you. I also checked Christie´s decades and nothing, I think.

Thracias 16 May 10 at 8:59 p.m. GMT

Where is Moderator2?! He should pay more attention to this site! We're paying attention to this site more than him/her.

Agathasmykid 16 May 10 at 6:25 p.m. GMT

tudes

1919 was the year thar her daughter, Rosalind, was born.

Tudes, this was a great thought on your part, thanks for sharing.  I took your idea and added some more theories to the ones I already stated;

Theory;  1'91'9 refers to Agatha's daughter Rosalind

Possible connections; 

-Check the Agatha Christie timeline on this website and read the description that comes with Rosalind's birth, I didn't find anything that seems to be a clue

-When I think about Rosalind, I thought about 'Curtain,' I do believe that is the book she wrote specifically for her daughter.  However looking up Curtain I couldn't find anything that looked like a clue.

Not sure what else relates to Rosalind on this website, however if anyone thinks of anything please let us know.

Agathasmykid 16 May 10 at 6:20 p.m. GMT

NoOole

Anyone noticed the words that appearing on the top                   (bags,deckchairs).                                                                    

I don't know if they were there before the murder start.           

I can tell you that they were at least on there when this whole thing started, I never noticed them before.

Agathasmykid 16 May 10 at 6:19 p.m. GMT

ilovewalruses2

@Gilatar: I checked every story in that book! Still nothing. :( This is so impossible

Yes, it would help a lot if a moderator came on and informed us if the second clue actually exists or not.

na_well 16 May 10 at 6:06 p.m. GMT

I don't know. I also thought the same. Maybe the clue is in the Shop section where there are deckchairs and bags.

The cover of "Death in the Clouds" looks a lot like a bee but I haven't read the novel so you can understand my confusion. Looking at the cover one may think it is a bee because it is very similar to a wasp.

NoOole 16 May 10 at 5:47 p.m. GMT

Anyone noticed the words that appearing on the top                   (bags,deckchairs).                                                                    

I don't know if they were there before the murder start.           

Thracias 16 May 10 at 4:50 p.m. GMT

Any books related to Agatha Christie's ddaughter? Rosalind Hicks, was that her name?

ilovewalruses2 16 May 10 at 12:55 p.m. GMT

@Gilatar: I checked every story in that book! Still nothing. :( This is so impossible

Gilatar 16 May 10 at 12:16 p.m. GMT

In 1991 the book Problem at Pollensa Bay and Other Stories was released, maybe that's a clue ?

glosselMeistel 16 May 10 at 11:58 a.m. GMT

na_well

The first part of beatriz sounds like bee. The new cover of Death in the clouds, right?

Sorry to disappoint some people, but in "Death in the Clouds" it was always a wasp, not a bee.

chris_14 16 May 10 at 5:41 a.m. GMT

yeah, on 1st september (9/1).

tudes 16 May 10 at 4:33 a.m. GMT

1919 was the year thar her daughter, Rosalind, was born.

chris_14 16 May 10 at 3:52 a.m. GMT

Oh, everybody's thinking the same way as me! I'm not entirely hopeless then! LOL!

Thracias 16 May 10 at 1:32 a.m. GMT

or the year 1919 or something? maybe a film in 1991?

Thracias 15 May 10 at 10:50 p.m. GMT

91? Could mean a year? as in 1991 or another year?

Agathasmykid 15 May 10 at 10:06 p.m. GMT

Wow, this is a tough one.  LIke others have said, it would be nice if a moderator or someone could confirm the existance of the second clue for sure.

I think I am going to take a couple of hours off and come back with a clear head.  Good luck everyone.  Keep those theories coming!

Agathasmykid 15 May 10 at 9:55 p.m. GMT

Thracias

If the number 91 doesn't mean a book, then it could be a film? special event that happened in her life? anything else it could be?

A good idea, but I can't think of any connection.

na_well 15 May 10 at 9:52 p.m. GMT

But if 91 means a year. It couldn't be something from Christie's life. She was 1 year old in 1891 and in 1991 she had already passed away. Maybe the year of release of a film adaptation.

Thracias 15 May 10 at 9:45 p.m. GMT

If the number 91 doesn't mean a book, then it could be a film? special event that happened in her life? anything else it could be?

na_well 15 May 10 at 9:40 p.m. GMT

It may not be a book since it said that the murderer has changed its tactics.

I think the number is important. It is the only victim with a number on the username so I guess that means something.

I think the names are made up. No one has found forum activity from the victims yet. I don't know though.

Agathasmykid 15 May 10 at 9:39 p.m. GMT

tudes

No, we don´t know. And if the killer changed his tatics as the post said? And if the clue doesn´t have any relation to the name Beatriz91?

Tudes you make a great point, maybe that is the website's way of saying don't look for the obvious and wait for the next death?

Thracias 15 May 10 at 9:39 p.m. GMT

The people who died. Angelika_Blue, Biancaquan, Cracker_jack and Beatriz91. Were they part of the Agatha Christie community just like us or someone Moderator2 made up?

Agathasmykid 15 May 10 at 9:38 p.m. GMT

javimoore

Agathasmykid

Okay, here are some theories I have so far in terms of

Theory 1 - Beatriz91 is somehow linked to 'And Then There Were None."

Reason;  9+1=10, Ten Little Indians, and one was stung by a Bee

Besides, there is a victim named Beatrice in "And then there were none"

Great point, there is such potentiel for the second clue to be linked to And Then There Were None, that I feel the clue would have to be somewhere there!  But I have checked it several times and have found nothing.

na_well 15 May 10 at 9:37 p.m. GMT

Great theories! The first part of beatriz sounds like bee. The new cover of Death in the clouds, right?

I hope someone confirms that the 2nd clue is still around. I am worried that if this doesn't happen some of us may go on a murder spree of their own. hehe. Just joking

Thracias 15 May 10 at 9:35 p.m. GMT

Beatrice can mean a number of things but there's also number 91. That should limit it down to a book or something? But which one? Does it have to be a book?

javimoore 15 May 10 at 9:33 p.m. GMT

Agathasmykid

Okay, here are some theories I have so far in terms of

Theory 1 - Beatriz91 is somehow linked to 'And Then There Were None."

Reason;  9+1=10, Ten Little Indians, and one was stung by a Bee

Besides, there is a victim named Beatrice in "And then there were none"

tudes 15 May 10 at 9:33 p.m. GMT

No, we don´t know. And if the killer changed his tatics as the post said? And if the clue doesn´t have any relation to the name Beatriz91?

tudes 15 May 10 at 9:29 p.m. GMT

The name Beatrice is also mentioned in Postern of fate.

I looked all these books and nothing!

Dr_Damo 15 May 10 at 9:28 p.m. GMT

I'm almost sure this is usless, as all my other ideas were, but the victims from the clues' usernames had the user real name: Angelika, Bianca, Jack and Beatriz, but we don't know the real names of those who were murdered for knowing too much, do we?

Thracias 15 May 10 at 9:25 p.m. GMT

Beatriz91 = Be at riz 91

Maybe?

Thx for helping by sharing your theories, thank you!

Agathasmykid 15 May 10 at 9:23 p.m. GMT

Okay, here are some theories I have so far in terms of trying to find the second clue (If it exists that is). I am hoping people will contribute their own ideas. 

****Please note that so far I have only been working from the Beatriz91 death and have not yet looked for links between her death and the death of the others

Theory 1 - Beatriz91 is somehow linked to 'And Then There Were None."

Reason;  9+1=10, Ten Little Indians, and one was stung by a Bee

Theory 2 - Beatriz91 is somehow linked to 'Death in the Clouds.' 

Reason; Poirot sits in seat 9, and it is thought that a Bee may have killed somebody

Theory 3- Beatriz may indicated the name Beatrice, and may be linked to stories with a character by the name of Beatrice, Including 'The Affair of the Pink Pearl', and/or 'The Voice in the Dark.'

Theory 4 - 91 may mean 9+1=10, or 9-1=8.  There has been some debate so far what Agatha's 8th and 10th books are, but which ever they are that is where the clue  maybe

Okay, so these have been mine, do any of you have any other theories?

tudes 15 May 10 at 9:20 p.m. GMT

But two are dead! And nobody knows if the second clue still there. I looked everywhere and I found nothing. I don´t know what to think.

javimoore 15 May 10 at 9:19 p.m. GMT

hmmm.... I don't think so... but there's something weird going on...

Thracias 15 May 10 at 9:09 p.m. GMT

It could be possible that the three of them are lying?

javimoore 15 May 10 at 9:08 p.m. GMT

How can we be sure that no one else has found the clue?

1. Maybe someone already found it and doesn't want to say anything.
2. Orrr... the ones who were killed weren't supposed to found it yet...

I don't know! Arghhhhh I'm stuck!

Javi

Thracias 15 May 10 at 9:06 p.m. GMT

I'm gonna go crazy if someone doesn't confirm that here is a second clue.

javimoore 15 May 10 at 9:03 p.m. GMT

This is getting crazy!

Marcia96 15 May 10 at 9:02 p.m. GMT

exactly... why he is not informing uss???

Thracias 15 May 10 at 8:58 p.m. GMT

*sigh* I can't find it......Shouldn't moderator2 come on here at least like twice a day?maybe more?

Marcia96 15 May 10 at 8:56 p.m. GMT

yes i know unfortunatelly. at least he could inform us ...

Thracias 15 May 10 at 8:54 p.m. GMT

Thebutlerdidit isn't online anymore.

Marcia96 15 May 10 at 8:52 p.m. GMT

somebody have to inform us if there is really a second cluee.... somebody who has found the clue or moderator 2 .....

Thracias 15 May 10 at 8:48 p.m. GMT

I've hit a stump.

Marcia96 15 May 10 at 8:46 p.m. GMT

dont know;);) do you have a theory about this 2nd clue??... i have some but i ended up with nothing:(....

Thracias 15 May 10 at 8:43 p.m. GMT

Good idea. Why didn't I think of that?

Marcia96 15 May 10 at 8:40 p.m. GMT

yes Butler please tell us if there is certainly a 2nd clue... and if it is obvious like the 1st one or you have to concentrate to the names to find it and if it is still there.... thank you;)

na_well 15 May 10 at 8:37 p.m. GMT

hehe. I have been looking for the 2nd clue for a long time and I can't find it. Butler, can you confirm the 2nd clue is still where it should be? Can you go back and look for it and then tell us if it is still there?

TheButlerDidIT 15 May 10 at 8:09 p.m. GMT

Yes two are dead only little old me left.....

That's very very....not good.

Marcia96 15 May 10 at 7:28 p.m. GMT

i still cant think where this clue is hidden...:( i have looked everywhere and still nothing...

javimoore 15 May 10 at 7:12 p.m. GMT

tudes

It´s so weird that only three have found the second clue!

And two of them are dead....

tudes 15 May 10 at 6:34 p.m. GMT

It´s so weird that only three have found the second clue!

javimoore 15 May 10 at 6:04 p.m. GMT

I know!! This one is haaaard!

And I don't think it is hidden in the books section... but if it's not there... where is ittt!!!??

Thracias 15 May 10 at 5:59 p.m. GMT

The more I think about this, the more stuck I keep getting.....

javimoore 15 May 10 at 5:30 p.m. GMT

Agathasmykid

Assuming the second clue is still on here somewhere, I will work on a list of theories people have come up with, and people can tell me if I am missing anything.  I hope to post that later today.

Awesome idea... let me know if you need some help...

Agathasmykid 15 May 10 at 5:08 p.m. GMT

Assuming the second clue is still on here somewhere, I will work on a list of theories people have come up with, and people can tell me if I am missing anything.  I hope to post that later today.

Thracias 15 May 10 at 4:22 p.m. GMT

We can not tell you that.

skulduggery32 15 May 10 at 4:15 p.m. GMT

-as to where clue 1 is

skulduggery32 15 May 10 at 4:13 p.m. GMT

can someone please give me a little clever hint? does it have to do with the victims names? or 'right under our noses...?' i'm so confused!

Thracias 15 May 10 at 4:09 p.m. GMT

Sorry, we can't tell you that.

skulduggery32 15 May 10 at 4:01 p.m. GMT

what was clue no.1?

Thracias 15 May 10 at 3:39 p.m. GMT

I am definetely stuck now.......

MissQuin 15 May 10 at 3:15 p.m. GMT

I didn't think it would be hidden under books, but I have checked them. i could have missed it, but I was careful.

Thracias 15 May 10 at 3:14 p.m. GMT

I don't know if it will help, but on the grave stone it say R.I.P.

                                                                            BEATRIZ

                                                                                91

The number 91 is directly under AT.

Thracias 15 May 10 at 3:08 p.m. GMT

Maybe it isn't on the book section?

Undeea 15 May 10 at 3:07 p.m. GMT

In The Secret Adversary it is mentioned The Ritz. I haven't read the novel yet so i do not know in what circumstances it is mentioned...but I've searched for the 2nd clue at the novels page and didn't find anything...if 91 represents a time (as marcia96 said); maybe the time when one can find the clue there??? i don't know... just a tought ...

Shino_Ellery 15 May 10 at 3:03 p.m. GMT

TheButlerDidIT

YES!

I am on a roll! Found the first clue easy when I actually looked hard enough. And then I found the second one which was much harder to find. I can't give clues though. I am so pleased with myself!

He seemed to have found it yesterday (14th May)! And he wasn't killed yet!

MissQuin 15 May 10 at 2:58 p.m. GMT

I thought Butler said he found the 1st clue? I really think that the 2nd one has gone now, Ive checked all the pages.

Shino_Ellery 15 May 10 at 2:51 p.m. GMT

Good job MissQuin, I was about to ask the question too. So wait until then? Or continue to look for the elusive second clue? Has it gone missing? TheButlerDidIt has found it though...

MissQuin 15 May 10 at 2:49 p.m. GMT

Thursday or friday most likely, as I checked the dates of the other murders.

student_dylan 15 May 10 at 2:45 p.m. GMT

When will there be another murder does anyone think? My guess is that it will be today or tomorrow, as so far they seem to have occured every 3 or 4 days... I'll keep trying to find the second clue until then but I'm pretty sure i won't be able to make any more progress until we get more information

MissQuin 15 May 10 at 2:37 p.m. GMT

I think 2 or 3 had found the 2nd clue.

ilovewalruses2 15 May 10 at 2:17 p.m. GMT

This is so not working for me 

Thracias 15 May 10 at 1:37 p.m. GMT

How many people have found the second clue?

Shino_Ellery 15 May 10 at 1:17 p.m. GMT

There's At Bertram's Hotel but no clue there... What I am worried is there won't be another murder and then we won't find the second clue... 

robreid 15 May 10 at 12:32 p.m. GMT

MissQuin gasp! robreid, your not supposed to post the clues on here! It makes it too easy for those who haven't actually looked for it. Also some people spent over 20 hrs looking, so theyve not had an easy time

Well Miss Quin this forum is actually for people who have found the first clue, otherwise they are just ruining the game for themselves, if they don't want to find out what the first clue is I advise them to stay clear of this forum.

Marcia96 15 May 10 at 11:49 a.m. GMT

maybe but it could also mean beatrice= be at ritz 91 as Thracias said. and 91 it could be the time lets say 9:01 or it could be the number of the hotel i dont quite know  because i cant remember any of AC book's that are mentioning The ritz hotel although she has book mentioning Hotels....

Thracias 15 May 10 at 11:47 a.m. GMT

What travel books?

Thracias 15 May 10 at 11:44 a.m. GMT

Could the numbers be there to put us off?

MissQuin 15 May 10 at 11:43 a.m. GMT

I don't know,  but maybe the clue was under one of the travel books, but it's not been removed, it was a ruse.

Thracias 15 May 10 at 11:42 a.m. GMT

91-19=72

72nd book??? i doubt it though

Marcia96 15 May 10 at 11:42 a.m. GMT

well maybe but lets say that beatriz 91 is a voyager how could that give us a clue about the 2nd clue??....

MissQuin 15 May 10 at 11:40 a.m. GMT

I think the beatriz is voyager and 91....I don't know!

Marcia96 15 May 10 at 11:36 a.m. GMT

ohhhh i didnt know that ... hmm that could mean something but is there a book that AC wrote that she is mentioning The Ritz hotel in it?....

glosselMeistel 15 May 10 at 11:32 a.m. GMT

Closest thing to "riz" might be "The Ritz", a famous London Hotel.

Marcia96 15 May 10 at 11:31 a.m. GMT

i thought just the same thing over 3 days Thracias ... i searched about it but found nothing... what does riz mean? is it an address?  

Thracias 15 May 10 at 11:25 a.m. GMT

Beatriz91 Be at riz91?

Marcia96 15 May 10 at 11 a.m. GMT

i did the same thing also but found nothing ....

glosselMeistel 15 May 10 at 10:58 a.m. GMT

Well, in my opinion the main clue to find the second clue  is travelling.

The name "Beatrice" means "voyager" or "traveller". Under her gravestone we see "Bon voyage beatriz91..."

A little too much coincidence for my taste.

The expression "Bon voyage" is mainly used for travelling by ship.

I've checked all the stories I know to contain a trip by ship, but couldn't find anything so far.

Marcia96 15 May 10 at 10:56 a.m. GMT

noo i dont know i hope he will come back soon to inform us about this 2nd clue.. but keep your eyes open to the online people maybe he is online now... who knows.....!!!

Thracias 15 May 10 at 10:53 a.m. GMT

Anyone know when Moderator2 will comeback?

MissQuin 15 May 10 at 10:51 a.m. GMT

Maybe, but I think some sneaky people will read this rather than go and hunt for it. Shame on them!

Thracias 15 May 10 at 10:49 a.m. GMT

I thought we were allowed though? Because this thread is only for first clue finders only?

MissQuin 15 May 10 at 10:47 a.m. GMT

gasp! robreid, your not supposed to post the clues on here! It makes it too easy for those who haven't actually looked for it. Also some people spent over 20 hrs looking, so theyve not had an easy time

robreid 15 May 10 at 10:46 a.m. GMT

Moderator 2 would fit in with what the first clue said " A Person in a position of trust"

HarleyBarley 15 May 10 at 10:46 a.m. GMT

It might have been deleted again as soon as two people have been murdered, the way a murderer hides eir bait as soon as victims have been found. On the other hand, it might be that we are simply not keen enough.

Marcia96 15 May 10 at 10:45 a.m. GMT

heh thats possible;)....

MissQuin 15 May 10 at 10:44 a.m. GMT

Thracias

Maybe Moderator2 is the murderer?

Well that is an invitation for murder! Ive spent ages to, but I'll search no more until the mod2 confirm it's still here. I will have to hold off doing my Irish jig, sorry everyone!

Thracias 15 May 10 at 10:42 a.m. GMT

Maybe Moderator2 is the murderer?

Marcia96 15 May 10 at 10:40 a.m. GMT

heh yes i know i also spent 2 hours searching for it ... but 3 people found the clue.... how is that possible that they found it and for us its not available(lets say)....???

HarleyBarley 15 May 10 at 10:39 a.m. GMT

Interesting. My, I do have a lot to catch up with!

Thracias 15 May 10 at 10:39 a.m. GMT

So I spent three whole hours looking for the clue and only now I find out that it hasnt even been confirmed.........*sobs*

Marcia96 15 May 10 at 10:38 a.m. GMT

no he didnt confirm that there is a 2nd clue.... yes your right Miss Quin we need a confirmation that there is a 2nd clue...

MissQuin 15 May 10 at 10:37 a.m. GMT

yes we need a confimation that the second clue is there, or that the page the second clue is on is working.

Thracias 15 May 10 at 10:36 a.m. GMT

What?! Moderator2 hasn't confirmed that there was a second clue?!

Marcia96 15 May 10 at 10:34 a.m. GMT

hmm thats possible... but i know a person that found the 2nd clue and as i know he is yet not dead.... moderator 2 has to inform us if there is really a 2nd clue....  

MissQuin 15 May 10 at 10:33 a.m. GMT

M_Hercule_Poirot and HH are still on here, so they don't need new accounts. I'm sure that would be cheating if they did.

I'm going to wait til monday to resume my search for the cecond clue, as Ive searched just about every page and can't find it. I wonder if the 2nd clue was just a red herring? A way of luring users onto the page so the killer could get them?

Marcia96 15 May 10 at 10:32 a.m. GMT

i did just what you said... i found something about the names but i ended up with nothing:( .....

Thracias 15 May 10 at 10:30 a.m. GMT

Maybe we have to sort of combine the first one and the second clue to find the seond clue?

Angelika_blue

Biancaquan

Cracker_jack

Beatriz91

Thracias 15 May 10 at 10:24 a.m. GMT

What would stop m hercule poirot and HH from just creating a new account?

MissQuin 15 May 10 at 9:54 a.m. GMT

student_dylan

And I'm beginning to think that M_Hercule_Poirot2 and Heisel were taken out of the game because maybe the moderator thought they were discussing the second clue they found too openly. Could the moderator confirm this? And is it ok to announce you found the clue but not to discuss it anymore than that until a new thread opens?

No I was there when the 2nd clue was put up, they weren't dicussing it. They were just killed for finding it!

Ive searched every page on this website and I havent found the clue. I suspect that it's not there and has been taken off, or that theres an error on the page.

Agathasmykid 15 May 10 at 7:45 a.m. GMT

I feel like I am in the same boat.  I have tried everything I can think of and still nothing.  Any sort of help would be much appreciated, even if the moderator can confirm it is on the website.

Shino_Ellery 15 May 10 at 7:34 a.m. GMT

student_dylan

 I really wonder if the next clue is going to be as straight forward to solve as the first one. It might be really tricky to solve. Do we all think that it will direct us to a particular page on the website? And will 'mystery man/murderer was here' link be used again or will we need to be watching out for something else? I've had no luck solving this second clue so far!

 Same here! I think Ive been through almost all the stories (even non-fictional) but still no clue!

Marcia96 15 May 10 at 7:32 a.m. GMT

;( those who have found the clue plz just tell us if it is obvious or we have to concentrate to the names to find it....:(

ilovewalruses2 15 May 10 at 7:29 a.m. GMT

Marcia96

dont think so..;) i can't find the 2nd cluee yet...:(

Ugh me either -_-

Marcia96 15 May 10 at 7:26 a.m. GMT

i dont know maybe not.. moderator2 has to inform uss..... 3 people found the 2nd clue.... so i think that there is one..

Agathasmykid 15 May 10 at 7:25 a.m. GMT

Marcia96

dont think so..;) i can't find the 2nd cluee yet...:(

Me neither!  I have tried everything I can think of...are we even sure they have put it on the website yet?

Marcia96 15 May 10 at 7:24 a.m. GMT

i dont know... i have some theories but i always end up with nothing:(....

Shino_Ellery 15 May 10 at 7:22 a.m. GMT

Still there for me! Hmm... Why is the second clue so HARD to find???

Marcia96 15 May 10 at 7:13 a.m. GMT

dont think so..;) i can't find the 2nd cluee yet...:(

Agathasmykid 15 May 10 at 7:08 a.m. GMT

Thanks Marcia, and ILove, much appreciated.  That is weird that it does not come up for me.

Ps.  Weirdest thing, after looking for the clue several times today, it is now back on there.....I hope that has nothign to do with this mystery!

Marcia96 15 May 10 at 7:03 a.m. GMT

for me its still there...:S why its not still there for you guys?...

ilovewalruses2 15 May 10 at 7:01 a.m. GMT

I can still see the first clue.

Unfortunately I cannot answer your second question :(

Marcia96 15 May 10 at 7 a.m. GMT

Agathasmykid

Two questions I would like help with;

1.  I went back to reread the first clue and I don't see it there anymore, is this happening to others?

2.  For those who have found the second clue, ccould you go back and check that it is still there?

Thanks so much!

i just went to the A.B.C murders page and it is still there the 1st clue...

Agathasmykid 15 May 10 at 6:56 a.m. GMT

Two questions I would like help with;

1.  I went back to reread the first clue and I don't see it there anymore, is this happening to others?

2.  For those who have found the second clue, ccould you go back and check that it is still there?

Thanks so much!

ilovewalruses2 15 May 10 at 6:34 a.m. GMT

Oh this is frustrating -_-

I had no problem finding the first clue, but this one is proving to be more difficult.

Dr_Damo 15 May 10 at 4:49 a.m. GMT

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I think the clue might be in "five little pigs". 9 plus 1 is 10. As it's the second clue you do 10/2 and it's five. There you are: five little pigs.

Dr_Damo 15 May 10 at 4:40 a.m. GMT

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I think the second clue may refear to "Problem at Pollensa Bay and Other Stories"

It was published in 1991

Dr_Damo 15 May 10 at 4:30 a.m. GMT

After I analized the victims name I got to a conclusion. I'm almost sure it's wrong but at least I tried. Angelika Bianca and Jack have all "ka" "ca" or "ac".

I told you it was stupid

Thracias 15 May 10 at 12:18 a.m. GMT

Notice that on the top part where Agatha, Poirot, Miss Marple are on there, it sometimes says, bags and deckchairs?

Voyager 91. deckchair and bags???

Thracias 15 May 10 at 12:15 a.m. GMT

I have been on this for 7 hours and not a single step colser to the second goal! Argh!

Thracias 15 May 10 at 12:10 a.m. GMT

Whats a voyager? Every time I look it up on wiki it says that they are space crafts?

na_well 15 May 10 at 12:04 a.m. GMT

Maybe a story with a voyage on it.

If you invert 91 you get 19. 19th book is Cards on the table I think.

I don't know if any of these is useful.

Thracias 15 May 10 at 12:01 a.m. GMT

Beatriz means voyager(through life)

Thracias 14 May 10 at 11:54 p.m. GMT

9+1=10    10th book is murder in the vicarge

9-1=8      8th book is mystery of the blue train

Thracias 14 May 10 at 11:22 p.m. GMT

91......Any ideas?

Agathasmykid 14 May 10 at 11:14 p.m. GMT

No luck for me yet either.  I have tried twice today, and once last night.  I keep going back to And Then There Were None, but I can't find anything there.  I will be moving on to other stories now.

na_well 14 May 10 at 11:08 p.m. GMT

I found the FIRST clue. It wasn't as hard as it seemed at first.

As someone mentioned in this post, they added the dot I noticed was missing in the headstone for the cracker_jack murder. I don't think it means anything though. It must have been just a typo.

Now I'm looking for the second clue. So sad to people from the community have been murdered!

Thracias 14 May 10 at 11 p.m. GMT

Beatriz91 might mean beatrice91 but then I dont know what 91 means?

NoOole 14 May 10 at 10:57 p.m. GMT

I am frustrated, can't find the second clue.

I come up with crazy yet realistic somehow but none of them led me to the clue

يا الله

Thracias 14 May 10 at 10:37 p.m. GMT

Anyone got any ideas????

Thracias 14 May 10 at 10:25 p.m. GMT

Still haven't figured out what 91 means?

tudes 14 May 10 at 10:19 p.m. GMT

I think there´s a Beatrice in Partners in Crime.

Thracias 14 May 10 at 10:18 p.m. GMT

There's also a Beatrice in The Affair of the Pink Pearl

Thracias 14 May 10 at 10:14 p.m. GMT

So this murder might be based on ABC Murders?

Thracias 14 May 10 at 10:13 p.m. GMT

Dont think so. I think it would be unlikely for Agatha Christie to use the same name twice.

student_dylan 14 May 10 at 10:08 p.m. GMT

Yes i just noticed that Beatrice is in And Then There Were None. Any more Beatrices, Thracias?

student_dylan 14 May 10 at 10:08 p.m. GMT

TheButlerDidIT

Maybe that one murder is motivated the others and to confuse us?

The second clues helps nicely....

Like in the book 'The ABC murders'? Do you mean that only one of our four murder victims was murdered for a motive and the other three to disguise that fact? And that the second clue makes us aware of this - and also identifies which victim is the real target?

Thracias 14 May 10 at 10 p.m. GMT

Beatrice is in And then there were none. She is a victim.

TheButlerDidIT 14 May 10 at 9:58 p.m. GMT

Maybe that one murder is motivated the others and to confuse us?

The second clues helps nicely....

Thracias 14 May 10 at 9:58 p.m. GMT

Im trying to find Beatrice in the books right now

student_dylan 14 May 10 at 9:55 p.m. GMT

Thracias

Also, in the paragraph about beatriz dieing, it says the mystery man might be changing tactics, only time will tell.

yes, I wonder if they're telling us that he definitely has changed tactics? Do you think it's significant that this is the second victim whose name begins with 'B'? Also, I can't think of any Beatrices in any of the books, have you had any luck with that yet?

TheButlerDidIT 14 May 10 at 9:54 p.m. GMT

I would say but I don't want to spoil the fun for anyone (even though it wasn't fun for me it took me ages!). Sorry!

student_dylan 14 May 10 at 9:52 p.m. GMT

Well done TheButlerDidiT, congratulation! So it's much harder to find. Hmmm...

And I'm beginning to think that M_Hercule_Poirot2 and Heisel were taken out of the game because maybe the moderator thought they were discussing the second clue they found too openly. Could the moderator confirm this? And is it ok to announce you found the clue but not to discuss it anymore than that until a new thread opens?

Well done TheButlerDidiT, congratulation! So it's much harder to find. Hmmm...Can you tell us if you happened upon it by accident or if you solved the clue 'Beatriz_91' Does that mean that 'Beatriz_91' contain everything we need to know to locate clue 2?

Or maybe you've been told TO SAY NOTHING AT ALL! But if that's the case can you confirm that?

Thracias 14 May 10 at 9:46 p.m. GMT

Then that could mean that Beatrice is a Character in one of the books, and if we track that book down it might be the one we're looking for?

TheButlerDidIT 14 May 10 at 9:46 p.m. GMT

Thracias

one tiny hint? please?

Sorry! I hope I don't get killed now coz that would be very very erm....not good.

student_dylan 14 May 10 at 9:41 p.m. GMT

Thracias

What could Beatriz mean?

I'm sure it's Beatrice. I wonder if it's significent that it's spelt with a 'z' instead. And does that make the 'z' important or the 'ce'? Angelika_blue was also spelt differently, 'K' instead of 'c'. It'll be interesting to see if this is a pattern that continues with the next victim's name.

Thracias 14 May 10 at 9:38 p.m. GMT

one tiny hint? please?

TheButlerDidIT 14 May 10 at 9:35 p.m. GMT

YES!

I am on a roll! Found the first clue easy when I actually looked hard enough. And then I found the second one which was much harder to find. I can't give clues though. I am so pleased with myself!

Thracias 14 May 10 at 9:33 p.m. GMT

So........If I have found the second clue, you can't even say that you have found it.

Thracias 14 May 10 at 9:31 p.m. GMT

Also, in the paragraph about beatriz dieing, it says the mystery man might be changing tactics, only time will tell.

Thracias 14 May 10 at 9:30 p.m. GMT

When Cracker_Jack died, underneath it, it said farewell, but when Beatriz died, it said Bon voyage which means Good Journey(French). So I'm thinking it has something to do with Poirot since he speaks french

Agathasmykid 14 May 10 at 9:25 p.m. GMT

GKCfan 

student_dylan

Does anybody know why HeiselHolmes and M_Hercule_Poirot2 were murdered? Were they murdered because they guessed the solution to the whole mystery? Or did they break the rules of the game somehow and were disqualified? Or were they murdered but are still in the game but given special roles to play? I find it curious! I think it's cruel if they were just randomly murdered and can't play anymore

The link between HeiselHolmes and M_Hercule_Poirot2  is that they found the second clue... and announced that they did.

So are you suggesting that if we do find the second clue we should shut up about it? ;)  Maybe others have found it but don't want to say anything for fear of being killed off.

Okay, so besides the And Then There Were None, theory, does anyone have any other theories?

Thracias 14 May 10 at 9:12 p.m. GMT

Did they say where they found it then someone deleted or banned them and also deleted their comments? And do you think that that person deleted where the link to the second clue because they gave it away?

GKCfan 14 May 10 at 9:07 p.m. GMT

student_dylan

Does anybody know why HeiselHolmes and M_Hercule_Poirot2 were murdered? Were they murdered because they guessed the solution to the whole mystery? Or did they break the rules of the game somehow and were disqualified? Or were they murdered but are still in the game but given special roles to play? I find it curious! I think it's cruel if they were just randomly murdered and can't play anymore

The link between HeiselHolmes and M_Hercule_Poirot2  is that they found the second clue... and announced that they did.

Thracias 14 May 10 at 8:53 p.m. GMT

I think I'm lonely now.........there's no one here.........

Thracias 14 May 10 at 8:52 p.m. GMT

Rosiland Hicks was her daughter so I thought of Hickory Dickory Dock but sadly, no results were found.

Thracias 14 May 10 at 8:49 p.m. GMT

What could Beatriz mean?

student_dylan 14 May 10 at 8:30 p.m. GMT

Thracias

You know the other detective like Tommy and Tuppence, do they only appear once?

there are 5 T+T books I think

student_dylan 14 May 10 at 8:29 p.m. GMT

Intelligent only because i've spent all afternoon thinking of things! It took me hours to solve the first clue (and really it was so easy...) I felt so frustrated when everybody else was getting it. I couldn't understand why I couldn't work it out lol! but I think i'm completely stuck on this one until we get more information

Thracias 14 May 10 at 8:27 p.m. GMT

You know the other detective like Tommy and Tuppence, do they only appear once?

Thracias 14 May 10 at 8:25 p.m. GMT

I've been wondering about that too. You seem way more intelligent than me. You've come with loads of ideas and found out many things.

student_dylan 14 May 10 at 8:24 p.m. GMT

Does anybody know why HeiselHolmes and M_Hercule_Poirot2 were murdered? Were they murdered because they guessed the solution to the whole mystery? Or did they break the rules of the game somehow and were disqualified? Or were they murdered but are still in the game but given special roles to play? I find it curious! I think it's cruel if they were just randomly murdered and can't play anymore

student_dylan 14 May 10 at 8:19 p.m. GMT

You're not dumb Thracias! I thought that the clue might be in the shop part of the website on the page that sold a book bag with 'And Then There Were None' on it (i'd seen previously some of the book bags for sale there - they're cool and old school!). I thought that if there were two more murder victims their names w might begin with A and G, giving us B(ianca).A.G, and that the '91' added together referred to the 10 little indians! Imagine my upset when there was no bag with that novel's title for purchase in the shop! More Hastings than Poirot!

Thracias 14 May 10 at 8:18 p.m. GMT

I'm gonna have a look around on wiki for the chronological orders of her books like you mentioned. Maybe, just maybe I can limit down the number of books I have to find.

Guess you were right all of them were published in 1900.

NoOole 14 May 10 at 8:15 p.m. GMT

I spent the last three hours thinking about the clue (not lying); I have made a mind map for anything that leads to the clue from the meaning of the name and its origin to the stories that are related somehow to the name

I have to take a time off to refresh my mind.

Good job for everyone who found the clue

student_dylan 14 May 10 at 8:15 p.m. GMT

Thracias

Are the clues only in the books part or all over the website

Who knows, I'm sure they're going to be sneakier and sneakier about it to trip us up. Or I suppose i mean that the murderer is going to do his best to avoid detection!

Thracias 14 May 10 at 8:15 p.m. GMT

I was dumb enough to look for the first clue on the shop part instead of the other place where you find the first clue lol

student_dylan 14 May 10 at 8:13 p.m. GMT

I really wonder if the next clue is going to be as straight forward to solve as the first one. It might be really tricky to solve. Do we all think that it will direct us to a particular page on the website? And will 'mystery man/murderer was here' link be used again or will we need to be watching out for something else? I've had no luck solving this second clue so far!

Thracias 14 May 10 at 8:12 p.m. GMT

Are the clues only in the books part or all over the website

Thracias 14 May 10 at 8:12 p.m. GMT

Just a coincedence I guess.

student_dylan 14 May 10 at 8:09 p.m. GMT

And it may not be the publication date of a book that the date refers to, it could be the year she debuted one of her plays or one of the films was released.

I actually did some more detective work because I thought maybe the date (if it's going to be a date) might refer to AC herself, but the only thing I could come up with is that her daughter was born 91 years ago, though that's probably just a coincidence because there's no sign that the murderer has been on the page for the novel 'A Daughter's a Daughter'.

Thracias 14 May 10 at 8:08 p.m. GMT

Is page 91 special in any of the books?

Good idea Dylan!

student_dylan 14 May 10 at 8:04 p.m. GMT

If this follows the first sequence of murders there will be three murders (although who's to say that it will?!). It's hard to know from only 1/3 of the clue, but what if '91' is the beginning of a date of publication? The 91 can be rearranged as 19, and as we know all AC books were published in the 1900s. It's the only/likliest solution I can think of at the moment - and of course it means we'll have to wait for another murder/clue to specify the actual year! they do say patience is a virtue but i've never been very patient. I want another murder!

robreid 14 May 10 at 7:46 p.m. GMT

91 could be the total number of books that AC wrote (in uk)

69 novels (including Black Coffee, Spider's Web and Unexpected Guest) 6 romance novels, 14 short story collections and 2 nonfiction works. That's if my counting is right! However, I don't know how that would help.

Thracias 14 May 10 at 7:45 p.m. GMT

Has anyone found the second clue yet?

Thracias 14 May 10 at 7:37 p.m. GMT

Maybe the numbers 19 if you switched them around or I'm thinking too far off track

Thracias 14 May 10 at 7:22 p.m. GMT

No, I meant the first clue. Can I say where the first clue is on here? No?

Marcia96 14 May 10 at 7:02 p.m. GMT

i tried that also but nothing:( by the way Thracias did you find the 2nd clue?? because in the previous topic you said you found it .....

Thracias 14 May 10 at 6:59 p.m. GMT

What about 9-1=8? Any stories with 8 things?

Marcia96 14 May 10 at 6:57 p.m. GMT

they said that there are 2 clues ... but i cant find the second oneeee:(.....

Marcia96 14 May 10 at 6:57 p.m. GMT

yes your right:) i checked it also but still i didnt find anything about it. when you said about the bee stung i remembered the book called Death at the clouds, where the victim died they thought by a stung of a bee but when i went to the page of that book in the AC website i didnt find anything....:(

Thracias 14 May 10 at 6:55 p.m. GMT

Number 91?Hmmmmmm..........

Thracias 14 May 10 at 6:54 p.m. GMT

How many clues are there now? I've found 1.

Agathasmykid 14 May 10 at 5:38 p.m. GMT

So far the only place I have really looked is in the And Then There Were None sections. As others have said, 9+1 = 10.  And in the Ten Little Indian's Rhyme, one is stung by a bee if memory serves correct.

BEAtriz91 I thought referred to And Then There Were None, but I have had no luck finding anything yet.

Marcia96 14 May 10 at 4:14 p.m. GMT

i still can't find the 2nd clue.. but they said there is a 2nd cluee.....

Shino_Ellery 14 May 10 at 3:13 p.m. GMT

I think so but still no clue to it's whereabouts! 

@MissQuin: Would love to see the jig! Then we will know you found it!

ilovewalruses2 14 May 10 at 2:52 p.m. GMT

So does that mean we are sure there is a second clue...?

MissQuin 14 May 10 at 10:36 a.m. GMT

If I find it, I'll do an Irish jig!

HarleyBarley 14 May 10 at 10:24 a.m. GMT

Yes, too young indeed. And I haven't found the second clue either, although at this point, to say that one has might be rather unwise...

MissQuin 14 May 10 at 10:12 a.m. GMT

At 16 HH was too young to die! Yes, Harley you can pass messages on from the other side. Might give me some comfort!

I still havent found the 2nd clue

HarleyBarley 14 May 10 at 8:43 a.m. GMT

Dear me, Shinichi, you are killed? There now, Miss Quin, it seems I am psychopomp after all...

Ahem. Don't worry, Shinichi, Heiji will be there to back you up!

Shino_Ellery 14 May 10 at 7:04 a.m. GMT

But it won't help the rest much if we can't discuss the second clue together is it not? Probably message one another and discuss it secretly? It's just a suggestion. Quite morbid for m_hercule_poirot_2 and HeiseiHolmes to be murdered once they found the second clue!

Agathasmykid 14 May 10 at 6:58 a.m. GMT

Wow, you take a few days off, and all of a sudden the game starts moving fast.  Is there a second clue?  I hope if someone finds it they let us know.  Based on the first clue I too have a theory on who this mystery man mabe, however it is so early in the game.  My guess is that there must be a pattern with the current people "killed" off like there was with the last group, but I guess we will have to wait and see.

ilovewalruses2 14 May 10 at 6:43 a.m. GMT

*Sigh* I guess I will just have to keep looking. This fourth murder doesn't seem to have anything in common with the first three, so yeah, I guess we will just have to wait. And maybe keep our mouths shut when we find it 

Shino_Ellery 14 May 10 at 6:33 a.m. GMT

I think there's a second clue (those who found them were murdered! ) but I can't find it either... It's not as straight forward as the first one... What we can do is to wait for the next murder... Anyone else has any ideas?

ilovewalruses2 14 May 10 at 4:54 a.m. GMT

Ahh! So is there actually a second clue? Has anyone found it? And someone mentioned earlier about the rest in peace headstone, and they are right! For cracker_jack it said R.I.P and now it says R.I.P.

Genna 14 May 10 at 4:45 a.m. GMT

It's the mysterious Mr. Quinn

crimesolver1 14 May 10 at 3:08 a.m. GMT

I 've got idea ,but  I need more  time to think about the case. I've read all the clue's as well ,and have only an guess about the clues that giving me.

chris_14 14 May 10 at 1:55 a.m. GMT

OK, it's better if I go to bed... Hopefully I'll have a dream about it that will tell me the solution...

chris_14 14 May 10 at 1:53 a.m. GMT

The 2nd clue is: Beatriz91

ilovewalruses2 14 May 10 at 1:46 a.m. GMT

Is the second clue hidden like the first? 

ilovewalruses2 14 May 10 at 1:43 a.m. GMT

I am hitting my head against the wall! TMI TMI!

I guess it doesn't help that I just woke up and haven't had any coffee -_-

chris_14 14 May 10 at 1:28 a.m. GMT

Hopefully... So, let's pretend that we know everything...

javimoore 14 May 10 at 1:08 a.m. GMT

I believe in the after life of the forum LOL

If we get killed... would the killer tell us where the first clue was?

chris_14 14 May 10 at 1:05 a.m. GMT

Me too. Although, we may say something that is in relation with the clues, and we don't even know about it - and we'll be brutally and callously murdered. And then we'll never know the truth! Just in case if there's some kind of after life...

javimoore 14 May 10 at 12:59 a.m. GMT

Then, I'm safe LOL LOL

chris_14 14 May 10 at 12:57 a.m. GMT

Me neither! Although, if we know nothing, we're safe...

javimoore 14 May 10 at 12:48 a.m. GMT

I don't want to get killed!!! LOL

Check your email.

chris_14 14 May 10 at 12:45 a.m. GMT

So, what are your theories, Jav? (I mean what we can talk about here).

javimoore 14 May 10 at 12:43 a.m. GMT

chris_14

How can I send you message, Jav? (I'm a registered member on this forum for ages, but I'm actively here since yesterday!)

Click on my profile and send me a message =)

chris_14 14 May 10 at 12:42 a.m. GMT

Thank you, Jav!

chris_14 14 May 10 at 12:42 a.m. GMT

How can I send you message, Jav? (I'm a registered member on this forum for ages, but I'm actively here since yesterday!)

javimoore 14 May 10 at 12:41 a.m. GMT

That was cool!!!!

BTW we are the only ones online LOL

Stupid cluuuuueeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!! ****Hits her head with the window****

chris_14 14 May 10 at 12:39 a.m. GMT

I found nothing, I have no clue;

Despite I'm sober, not out of the blue.

Who is Cracker Jack?

Hey Ghosts, please come back!

One thing's for sure: blue rhymes with clue.

(Hopefully the poetry is allowed here!)

javimoore 14 May 10 at 12:36 a.m. GMT

I haven't found any of the clues.... this is driving me crazy... and everybody says is so easy!! I don't think so!!

You can send me a msg if you want to.

chris_14 14 May 10 at 12:32 a.m. GMT

@Javimoore did you find any of the clues? I haven't found any of them yet!

I've found something, but that would be more complicated - I mean, everybody who found the clues, said it was easy. It wouldn't be as easy, but definitely fits.

chris_14 14 May 10 at 12:28 a.m. GMT

@Javimoore Yeah, we may need one!

javimoore 14 May 10 at 12:02 a.m. GMT

@chris_14 Let's put all our little gray cells in action together!

Do we need a Ouija board to get a Hint?

chris_14 14 May 10 at 12:02 a.m. GMT

91... a page of a book?

chris_14 13 May 10 at 11:59 p.m. GMT

Ghost are haunting here... Is against the rules if the ghosts give us hints... you know, just telepathically, or during a seance?

chris_14 13 May 10 at 11:59 p.m. GMT

Ghost are haunting here... Is against the rules if the ghosts gives us hints... you know, just telepathically, or during a seance?

lidija_kov 13 May 10 at 8:25 p.m. GMT

Hm, interesting. It says bon voyage beatriz91, i don't know...

MissQuin 13 May 10 at 8:19 p.m. GMT

the name beatriz means voyager but hows that a clue?

lidija_kov 13 May 10 at 8:05 p.m. GMT

We need some serious brainstorming to do. Its really hard to find 2nd clue.

Beatriz91, what could it mean?

Let us say that numbers are of importance -> but what about them?

Marcia96 13 May 10 at 7:17 p.m. GMT

Can't find the 2nd clueeeeee.....:( i can't imagine where it iss:(

biggles_aristide 13 May 10 at 6:57 p.m. GMT

Yay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I found it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

First clue!!! I've been looking for days......

I have a theory....won't reveal it though.

MissQuin 13 May 10 at 6:47 p.m. GMT

Were not suppoed to tell where any clues are. I still can't find the  second one.

miss_hinchcliffe 13 May 10 at 6:45 p.m. GMT

AArgh, I have been looking for this for ages, as it is probably irrelevant now, could someone tell me where the first clue is so I can start looking for the second??????????????????????????

typical - it has now been found - you always find things when your not looking!!!!!

m_hercule_poirot_2 13 May 10 at 4:55 p.m. GMT

Thanks HeiselHolmes

@MissQuin

Yes, we shall not rest until we are avenged.

HeiseiHolmes 13 May 10 at 4:55 p.m. GMT

Yes, it seems Heaven and Hell wouldn't accept me. My thumbnail looks set to be a mess soon. I always chew it if I'm nervous or stressed, and with my tragic murder, and exam season... It'll be gone in a few hours.

MissQuin 13 May 10 at 4:50 p.m. GMT

Your ghosts are roaming the internet?!

HeiseiHolmes 13 May 10 at 4:48 p.m. GMT

M Hercule Poirot 2- check your email. It seems we've been informed of stuff.

m_hercule_poirot_2 13 May 10 at 4:44 p.m. GMT

I like the fact I got killed because I just returned to the site when I read the recent newsletter an hour ago and now I am no more. This is actually interesting me a lot from beyond the grave.

MissQuin 13 May 10 at 4:38 p.m. GMT

I will run across the moors crying out HEISEI!!! COME BACK TO ME! Like Wuthering heights, only without the love element, um were just friends! lol I can't even concentrate, i need caffine now for the shock.

Oh and HP2 I'm sorry for you too!

HeiseiHolmes 13 May 10 at 4:36 p.m. GMT

If I can't play anymore, you can at least look forward to my new stories. With nothing more to do, I got time to do that now.

MissQuin 13 May 10 at 4:35 p.m. GMT

*screams* NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! My friend Heisei!  I will avenge your death! Or, um try to.. only I can't find this clue at all!

chris_14 13 May 10 at 4:34 p.m. GMT

Hey, but you're dead!

And it was a double murder this time!

I've counted it twice: for me Blue Train was the 6th.

m_hercule_poirot_2 13 May 10 at 4:31 p.m. GMT

No the tenth book Agatha Christie wrote was The Mystery Of The Blue Train not Dumb Witness. Of course tenth including The Road of Dreams.

AAHHHH! No don't do it....

chris_14 13 May 10 at 4:30 p.m. GMT

OMG! Poor HH & HP2!!!

chris_14 13 May 10 at 4:29 p.m. GMT

Sorry, Lord Edgware is the tenth, but Blue Train is definitely the 6th.

HeiseiHolmes 13 May 10 at 4:28 p.m. GMT

~Sigh~ I feared that would happen. Oh well, all good things come to an end, right...?

lidija_kov 13 May 10 at 4:28 p.m. GMT

Moderator2

Oh dear m_hercule_poirot_2 and heiselholmes - have you seen the home page recently? You've been murdered!!!!

Oh, that is terrible. They were obviously too close

lidija_kov 13 May 10 at 4:26 p.m. GMT

chris_14

But I've just checked it, her tenth book was Dumb Witness, not the Mysterious Blue Train!

Realy? Then I gues I didn't count it correctly. Are you sure?

Moderator2 13 May 10 at 4:25 p.m. GMT

Oh dear m_hercule_poirot_2 and heiseiholmes - have you seen the home page recently? You've been murdered!!!!

m_hercule_poirot_2 13 May 10 at 4:22 p.m. GMT

Found the first clue too. Awesome!

I think we're going to have a few sets of three murders each. Each of them will have some theme. This could possibly tell us the murderer

chris_14 13 May 10 at 4:21 p.m. GMT

But I've just checked it, her tenth book was Dumb Witness, not the Mysterious Blue Train!

Shino_Ellery 13 May 10 at 4:16 p.m. GMT

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I'm sorry Miss Quin... Sometimes my ideas just come out too fast that people will get confused...   What I meant was probably the names of the victims are the most important clues rather than their background...

HeiseiHolmes 13 May 10 at 4:13 p.m. GMT

I found the second clue too! I'm so proud of myself. I have them both now, and I think it may be leading towards a particular book. I can't wait for the third!!

m_hercule_poirot_2 13 May 10 at 4:12 p.m. GMT

Well I found the clue and it took me to a place that said it was the second clue. But I can't tell you anymore except that it was placed here today. Still looking for the first one though.

lidija_kov 13 May 10 at 4:11 p.m. GMT

here is a theory: so the first victim of the first three victims was angelika_blue, the first victim of the second three( well I supose there will be 3) victims is beatriz91. If we take 9+1= 10 as tenth book, it is  The mystery of the blue train -> blue and blue

I know, I know , its stupid

Shino_Ellery 13 May 10 at 4:09 p.m. GMT

Since when there's a second clue? My thoughts are like yours GKCfan... But if there's a second clue then I could be wrong... Cause I checked and there's nothing there! Moderator please confirm?

MissQuin 13 May 10 at 4:08 p.m. GMT

Shino_2288

Is she a new member? Or probably what matters the most is in the name Miss Quin... Just like the rest of the victims! Oooh this is getting exciting! Patterns after patterns... Heisei Holmes has a point!

What?!

HeiseiHolmes 13 May 10 at 4:06 p.m. GMT

Eeeeh?! There was a second clue?

Shino_Ellery 13 May 10 at 4:06 p.m. GMT

Is she a new member? Or probably what matters the most is in the name Miss Quin... Just like the rest of the victims! Oooh this is getting exciting! Patterns after patterns... Heisei Holmes has a point!

GKCfan 13 May 10 at 4:05 p.m. GMT

Well, there goes the ABC pattern and the color pattern... but the "first name pattern" still holds.  New theory... the Mystery Killer strikes in threes.  When viewed together, the names of the victims are hints to where the next clue will be hidden.  Perhaps the number "10" will be a clue, perhaps something else...

m_hercule_poirot_2 13 May 10 at 4:03 p.m. GMT

I found the second clue! YAY!

But unfortunately I haven't found the first one yet! But I'm looking for it.

HeiseiHolmes 13 May 10 at 3:57 p.m. GMT

1891- 1 year after Agatha Christie was born.

1991- They Do It With Mirrors was shown on TV with Joan Hickson

That's all I could think of that relates to Agatha Christie.

chris_14 13 May 10 at 3:55 p.m. GMT

And again, just like in case of Angelika, the spelling of the name...

chris_14 13 May 10 at 3:54 p.m. GMT

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Hang on, 91... Doesn't it sound familiar, as a year...?

chris_14 13 May 10 at 3:52 p.m. GMT

Ten can mean another book title (or rather story), but I have a collection of titles now! And I'm not an inch closer to the first clue!

MissQuin 13 May 10 at 3:47 p.m. GMT

I searched this site for her, nothing!

HeiseiHolmes 13 May 10 at 3:40 p.m. GMT

Nine plus one is ten, tenth book? I looked for Beatriz91 on Google, and found too much. It seems to be a common name. But add "Agatha" to the search, and nothing relavant appears... Hmmm...

chris_14 13 May 10 at 3:38 p.m. GMT

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Hey Guys, I've noticed something, although, perhaps it's nothing to do with the clues. I saw a name (not the names of the victims), here in the website, and I think that name hadn't been here before. Anyway, it wasn't familiar for me at all. Therefore I tried to look for it in the search panel, but it gave no results at all! I tried with all the topics (books, stories, films, etc, even gifts and games, but NOTHING!!!). And the name fits quite well in our 'story-line'.

chris_14 13 May 10 at 3:20 p.m. GMT

Arrrrggghhh! A new victim!!! Beatriz 91!!! No point of it!!!

HarleyBarley 13 May 10 at 2:26 p.m. GMT

To find the first clue, all one needs is the eye to notice a pattern, and the little grey cells of Hastings (not Poirot, mind - that will be too hard for us). For any further clues, the main requirement is patience.

ilovewalruses2 13 May 10 at 2:15 p.m. GMT

@ HarleyBarley: Either really =)

@ Shino 2288: it just gets more complicated, doesn't it? I suppose I will wait till the next murder to draw my conclusions...

Shino_Ellery 13 May 10 at 2:02 p.m. GMT

Excuse my previous comment... The murderer might not even be male after all! Went back and examine the Chipping Cleghorn Gazette and the silhouette is artist's impression after all! Can the gender of the murderer even be a red herring too?

HarleyBarley 13 May 10 at 1:50 p.m. GMT

Ideas for what exactly? Ideas as to where to search next, ideas as to who the murderer is?

ilovewalruses2 13 May 10 at 1:32 p.m. GMT

Any ideas HarleyBarley?

Or are you hesitant to share them for fear of being MURDERED? :)

HarleyBarley 13 May 10 at 1:19 p.m. GMT

First clue finally found. No, it does not need all too much time, just some little grey cells (sic).

ilovewalruses2 13 May 10 at 9:15 a.m. GMT

Congrats NoOole! I don't think you are in any more danger of being killed than the rest of us, considering you have not said anything :) 

Any ideas?

NoOole 13 May 10 at 9:14 a.m. GMT

i might have to read the story again.

hope that i don't get killed

NoOole 13 May 10 at 9:11 a.m. GMT

Finally,                                                                                          

I have found the first clue, sorry can't say anything

ilovewalruses2 13 May 10 at 8:04 a.m. GMT

Wishing I bought that book now :( What if it has something important to do with the game?

Shino_Ellery 13 May 10 at 7:47 a.m. GMT

Guess it's time to read back the story again! I guess it's not that obvious that the murderer is the killer from the story... (Oops! I might get killed!)

Marcia96 13 May 10 at 7:44 a.m. GMT

i dont think they put new clues in the website yet because as you said ilovewalruses2 in the newsletter it says that there will be more clues in the months to come- so.. i guess we have to wait... but i think that the colours in the name's of the victims(angelika_blue, biancaquan, and  craker_jack) it will mean something at the end;);).... 

ilovewalruses2 13 May 10 at 7:21 a.m. GMT

But the clue itself said there will be more clues in the months to come- Ah well, I will just keep my eyes peeled. :)

Shino_Ellery 13 May 10 at 7:17 a.m. GMT

ilovewalruses2 has a point, the newsletter said clues to the killer...so are there more than one? And is the murderer a male (if it matches the silhouette)? Or a female?

ilovewalruses2 13 May 10 at 2:47 a.m. GMT

Sorry it's against the rules :( 

You can find it, you just have to stop and think about it. Good Luck!

alejandrotafurcz 13 May 10 at 2:07 a.m. GMT

I have not found the first clue but I give up, I have been looking for it since the 7th of May and have not found it. Could anybody be so kind to tell me?

ilovewalruses2 13 May 10 at 1:58 a.m. GMT

The newsletter said to keep looking for clues...Surely there isn't another one already? Well I will go make a quick check on the website

Narracot 12 May 10 at 9:17 p.m. GMT

I noticed something of value, that can make up up a theory...The only clues we have are the names of the dead, the first victim's user name begun with an A (not both words though)The second's with a B ,and the third's with a C, that resembles pretty much the AC'S idea as presented in the A.B.C. murders.

TheButlerDidIT 12 May 10 at 8:13 p.m. GMT

I have still not found the clue (mainly due to being both busy and stupid!) and I belive you are allowed now on this topic to say where it is?

But I will have a last look before anybody reveals all!

GKCfan 12 May 10 at 7:50 p.m. GMT

Consider the clue... I believe that the exact words of the clue have been used to refer to multiple killers in Christie's books... 

chris_14 12 May 10 at 7:22 p.m. GMT

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I suppose it's not accidental that the name Angelika is written with k instead of c.

chris_14 12 May 10 at 7:19 p.m. GMT

It's annoying... It must be very easy... but I'm still clue-less! And I should write my essay, so, I definitely shouldn't waste my time here.

Yes, that's all what I could think of, it must be in relation with the ABC Murders. (Or Mysterious Blue Train, or The Mirror Cracked From Side to Side - although, I'm not sure in these!).

jenpix 12 May 10 at 7:01 p.m. GMT

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The clue may be to do with the method for the murders. So in the ABC murders it was a fake seriel killer to hide a single killing. Which means that the murderer will only have a motive for one of the killings in the pattern. Hopefully we will hear from the psychic about the other murders and all we have to do is work out which on is the real one and then the murderer will be the obvious person.

Just a thought.

lidija_kov 12 May 10 at 5:01 p.m. GMT

MissQuin

I saw the 1st clue but reread some of the murder names and noticed something.

well, I noticed that in cracker jack "ack" from cracker is exactly above "ack" from jack. So, I  thought it had something to with Murder of Roger Ackroyd. But ofcourse, this was just my imagination running wild.

MissQuin 12 May 10 at 4:37 p.m. GMT

I saw the 1st clue but reread some of the murder names and noticed something.

HeiseiHolmes 12 May 10 at 4:32 p.m. GMT

33rd book? Maybe? Ahahah, I'm just making stuff up. That message you saw, was that the second clue?

MissQuin 12 May 10 at 4:06 p.m. GMT

I saw the number 33 on here, for no reason! odd...

The meaning of life is 33?!

HeiseiHolmes 12 May 10 at 3:59 p.m. GMT

I found something quite strange, actually... It wasn't a clue, I think it was just a broken link, though. But I'm not jumping to conclusions!

MissQuin 12 May 10 at 3:49 p.m. GMT

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Oh yes, it is very odd name.

spoilers for Murder is Easy It gives the impression of the owner being a fluffy old lady, dotty about her cat. How wrong..

HeiseiHolmes 12 May 10 at 3:47 p.m. GMT

I meant "Wonky-Pooh" from Murder is Easy.  That is a name that's a good reason to murder for...

MissQuin 12 May 10 at 3:43 p.m. GMT

lol what was the cats name HH? Fluffles, Lil Pixiebell, Tinker, Sparklemew, Princess Pinky (the cat's owner dyed it's fur pink) those names are good reasons for murder!

lidija_kov 12 May 10 at 3:40 p.m. GMT

Marcia96

well that's an idea:)(about the mystery case)!!!.... i can't thnk of an idea yet. i guess i will wait for the 2nd clue.....

I'm going to wait too. I hope it will be soon.

Marcia96 12 May 10 at 3:31 p.m. GMT

well that's an idea:)(about the mystery case)!!!.... i can't thnk of an idea yet. i guess i will wait for the 2nd clue.....

HeiseiHolmes 12 May 10 at 3:30 p.m. GMT

That seems like a better idea the more I think about it. The cat, in the kitchen, knocks over a bottle of arsenic with its tail. The motive? Revenge on the world for having such a horrific name! It's all coming together, heh heh... The culprit is YOU! *points at cat*.

HeiseiHolmes was found dead the next morning, with a pawprint on his forehead...

MissQuin 12 May 10 at 3:25 p.m. GMT

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But everyone who gets the correct answer goes into a draw, so it will be up to chance. Anyay, if I don't actually want to win the prize (it's not be announced) the I wouldn't enter. That would be shame after all!

A moggie murderer?!

HeiseiHolmes 12 May 10 at 3:21 p.m. GMT

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Then... I just know you're going to win!! *sobs dramatically* This couldn't have come at a worse time, etc etc...

I still like my stupid theory. I think the killer is the cat from Murder is Easy, since Angelika Blue would trust cats.

MissQuin 12 May 10 at 3:15 p.m. GMT

I have noticed a clue written in a message, which gives me an idea on what story it's from! I will tease you all by saying no more!

lidija_kov 12 May 10 at 3:04 p.m. GMT

I have no idea whatsoever!

Marcia96 12 May 10 at 3 p.m. GMT

well, we have to think about it more carefully, but i think it will be more obvious after the 2nd clue....

HeiseiHolmes 12 May 10 at 2:58 p.m. GMT

I had one idea, but it doesn't make sense.

Marcia96 12 May 10 at 2:51 p.m. GMT

Yes me too but he might also not be from the AC book's. He might be someone who is choosing randomly to kill different people, but i think he is from AC book's.... anyway i will wait for the 2nd clue and see/guess then who he might be.. even though Miss Quin says that she thinks she know who he might be ;);)....  

ilovewalruses2 12 May 10 at 2:46 p.m. GMT

Oh Miss Quin are you afraid of getting to close to the truth? =)

ilovewalruses2 12 May 10 at 2:44 p.m. GMT

Thats very interesting. I do not own the book, so I appreciate what I can find out about it. I am leaning towards the idea that the murderer is a character in a AC book simply because of the lack of details we have concerning the victims and their deaths.

MissQuin 12 May 10 at 2:44 p.m. GMT

I have a vauge idea of who it might be, I have two clues which suggest so. But I'm not revealing anymore!

I'm not sure if the silloutte could actually match the killer or not.

Marcia96 12 May 10 at 2:36 p.m. GMT

hmm thats a good point:) well i think that the mystery man could be one of the characters in the A.B.C murder's book. i have checked inside of the book and found 1 or 2 characters that might be suspicious but im not quite sure about them. Also while i was looking i found a part in the book which was talking about a place with white fences, green trees/brown soil, and a blue river... This point might be of no importance, but if you think about it carefully maybe it is a clue to where our victims died and where their grave's are, because the first victim was called angelika_blue the blue might be connected with the river which is blue, then the 2nd victim was called biancaquan if you translate bianca/quan in another language it mean white and white in the book were the white fences as i said about it before, and the 3rd victim was called craker_jack a cracker is brown, brown is also the soil... i found this clue while i was looking the book but of course it might also be of no importance....

ilovewalruses2 12 May 10 at 2:28 p.m. GMT

brb

ilovewalruses2 12 May 10 at 2:25 p.m. GMT

Well, quite honestly it is 99% speculation at this point. The silhouette vaguely resembles Hastings as portrayed by Hugh Fraser, and the clue made me think of him. Lastly, he was at the A.B.C Murders, and it is conceivable that with Poirot gone, he would believe himself out of danger of being caught.  Do you have any ideas?

Marcia96 12 May 10 at 2:16 p.m. GMT

 lol;)... but how do you know, i mean how did that idea come to your mind??...

ilovewalruses2 12 May 10 at 2:15 p.m. GMT

Well in a nutshell, Hastings did it. lol

Marcia96 12 May 10 at 2:14 p.m. GMT

heyYY!!:) i found the clue 3 days ago;) i was also hoping to discuss the clue with other people and to share ideas about the murder or who could he be ....;) i want to listen to your theory first and see what you think about it ilovewalruses2 ;)...   

ilovewalruses2 12 May 10 at 2:02 p.m. GMT

Ooh I was hoping for one of these!

I have a theory, but it isn't very developed at all.

Anyone else?